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XoBLoNDiE85
01-29-2010, 07:23 PM
It Can Happen Here

by John R. Woodward

This article is taken from "The Disability Rag and ReSource"
vol 15 no. 1 (Jan/Feb) 1994. Avocado Press: louisville, KY.

American doctors once conducted an experiment that proved you can kill the disabled babies of poor families and get away with it. Their research was funded by the Federal Government. Twenty-four babies with spina bifida lost their lives. The experiment was declared a success. Yes, it can happen here.

Between 1977 and 1982, four doctors and a social worker at the Children's Hospital of Oklahoma, in Oklahoma City, monitored the births of babies with myelomeningocele (the medical term for spina bifida). Parents who were poor were told that it would not be appropriate to treat their baby and given an extremely pessimistic picture of their child's future life. Parents from better-off families were told more about the treatments for spina bifida and given more optimistic - and more accurate - information about their child's potential.

None of the parents knew they were part of an experiment. Parents who were assigned to the "pessimistic outcome" group chose, by a factor of nearly five to one, not to have their babies treated. The experiment was not conducted to prove that babies with spina bifida will die if they are not treated. Doctors already knew that. The goal of the experiment was to prove that the families would accept a "do-not-treat" recommendation from their doctors.

It was no coincidence that the babies who died were the children of poor parents. To select the families for the "pessimistic outcome group," the doctors conducting the study developed a "formula" which they published as part of their write-up in "Pediatrics", the most famous and influential medical journal devoted to the care of children. This is their "formula": Quality of Life = Natural Endowment by the contribution of the Home plus the contribution of Society. In a more mathematical style it reads: QL = NE * (H + S). The doctors measured the "H" - the contribution of the home - primarily in financial terms: family income, family debt, employment and employability of the parents, etc. The parents' "intellectual resources," defined in terms of their educational level, were also included in the calculation of "H," which had the effect of crowding the pessimistic outcome group with parents less likely to challenge the doctors' "facts". Since "Natural Endowment" is multiplied by the other factors, rather than added to them, babies with a greater level of impairment (and hence less "natural endowment") were more likely to be placed in the "pessimistic outcome" group.

The "formula" used non-medical factors to decide which babies ought to receive treatment, which should be a medical decision. The use of a mathematical procedure to create the appearance of an empirical foundation for the decision not to treat is not science. It's "scientism," the dressing up of a moral prejudice in the language and trappings of science, so as to lend a false credibility to a value judgment that would otherwise be more readily exposed as a mere prejudice. In this case, the doctors arbitrarily assumed that poor families offered a quality of life so much lower than that of middle-class and wealthy families that babies born into them were better off dead.

Frieda Smith, who gave birth to Stonewall Jackson Smith in 1979, remembers being confronted by a doctor just days after a difficult birth, before she had time to come to terms with her baby's birth impairment.

"He (the doctor) told me that I would always have to take care of him, that he would be blind, that he would never know me, that he was more like some kind of animal than a human being," she says. "He never really sat down with me and explained what the operation would do for Stoney." Ms. Smith was never told that the failure rate for spina bifida treatments is very low, nor did she understand that the operation would reduce the degree of sensory, mobility and intellectual impairment that her son experienced. "He made it sound like Stoney would live longer, but he wouldn't ever get any better."

Ms. Smith signed a consent form agreeing that Stonewall would be fed and given minimal "supportive care," but no antibiotics or surgery. Later, when she had questions about her baby's treatment, the doctor refused to make himself available to answer them. Ms. Smith also says that she did not know that she could have taken her son to another hospital, where he would have been treated at once.

During the five years of the study, 69 babies with spina bifida were born in the Children's Hospital of Oklahoma (now known as Oklahoma Children's Hospital), a teaching hospital affiliated with the University of Oklahoma. Thirty-three babies were recommended for "supportive care" without treatment; eight of them were eventually treated anyway, either because their parents insisted or because their parents or guardians eventually obtained more accurate information. All of the 24 babies whose parents consented to the "supportive care" regimen died. ( a twenty-fifth baby in the "supportive care" regimen was moved out of state by his parents and lost to the study. Two of the eight babies that were eventually treated also died, possibly because the treatments came too late.) Most of the babies who were deprived of treatment were born to women in the welfare system, who were paying for their care with Medicaid benefits. None of the 36 babies that were given antibiotics and surgery died from the effects of spina bifida. (One did in an accident.)

In addition to being poor, many of the families of the children that were chosen to die were poorly educated. Frieda Smith felt that she was manipulated by a doctor who took advantage of her medical ignorance. Her experiences, and the experiences of other mothers whose babies died, raised serious questions about whether they truly gave "informed consent" when they signed the forms agreeing to the "supportive care" regimen. Indeed, some parents came away from their meeting with the doctor under the false impression that the hospital was not required to treat babies who did not meet the "criteria for treatment" (i.e., the formula).

Ms. Smith and her husband John, who are European-Americans, joined two other parents in a lawsuit against the hospital, the Oklahoma Department of Social Services, administrators in both institutions and the doctors and social workers who conducted the study. Cheparney Camp, a Native American, sued over the death of his daughter Melissa, and Sharon Jackson, who is African-American, sued on behalf of her son Carlton. Carlton, in the words of attorney Jane Brockman, "beat the odds." He survived for months in a children's center, where the nurses and attendants cared for him. Eventually, Ms. Johnson insisted that he be treated. However, the months-long delay caused him to develop more severe impairments than he would have sustained if he had been treated within 48 hours of his birth - which is standard procedure.

Sadly, the lawsuit was unsuccessful. The National Legal Center for the Medically Dependent and Disabled, in conjunction with Oklahoma attorneys, represented the plaintiffs through nearly 10 years of hearings and appeals, before the Supreme Court decided, last January, not to hear the case. The plaintiffs began in the Federal Courts with an 11-count complaint, charging wrongful deaths, malpractice, violations of fundamental Constitutional rights, a failure to inform the families that they were participating in an experiment, discrimination under Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act and other violations of Federal law. Between 1983 and 1990 the courts threw out all the counts. When the Supreme Court refused to reinstate the Section 504 complaint in January, they ended the long legal battle.

"What the Supreme Court could have done by recognizing we had a viable complaint under Section 504 was to send a message to hospitals all across the country, and physicians across the country that you *will* have claims against you if you discriminate against the disabled child in a situation where the treatment is related to that disabling condition," says Jane Brockmann, one of the National Legal Center attorneys who handled the final stages of the case. "We could have scared physicians across the country away from what these physicians did."

Readers of "The Rag" will recall that the European Holocaust of World War II began with the government-ordered murder of persons with physical and mental disabilities, most of whom were killed by their own doctors. This program began two years before World War II and claimed the lives of over 100,000 Germans with disabilities. Ever since the full scope of the Nazi racial crimes was revealed, Americans have insisted to the world that the mass murder of "undesirables" under the authority of State and Science is a crime of which we are not capable.

Indeed, if there is a difference that stands out between the attitudes of the German doctors who murdered their own patients and the "researchers" at the Oklahoma Children's Hospital, it is this: the German doctors acted in secret, knowing that their crimes must not be exposed. They hid their killings behind an elaborate arrangement of phony death certificates and other official paperwork. The Oklahoma doctors, on the other hand, proclaimed what they had one openly, in the most prestigious medical journal of their specialty. They understood the attitude of the American public towards persons with disabilities. Evidently, they understood it better than we disability rights activists do today! They knew that any furor over their crimes would dissipate without harming their careers, and they knew that in the end their colleagues would admire and emulate them.

"We are beginning to see hospitals going to court, trying to establish `rights' for themselves," says Ms. Brockmann. "Hospitals are seeking the right not to treat some patients." Of course, these patients are persons with disabilities who require expensive, intricate and sometimes long-lasting treatment. In extreme cases, hospitals have sued to have a legally competent parent or spouse removed as the guardian of a person with a disability, so that a new guardian can be appointed to discontinue treatment. Ms. Brockman sees a trend in the courts: "It seems that when a patient with severe disabilities sues to request that treatment be withheld, the courts are inclined to grant that request; but when someone sues on behalf of such a patient in order to continue treatment, they will have an uphill battle. Treatment should be the default decision in ambiguous cases. The Constitution expressly protects the right to live. As Congress begins to debate the role of rationing in health care reform, the court will no doubt rule on more "right-not-to-treat" cases.

Today Carlton Johnson, the boy who "beat the odds," is 10. He attends a segregated educational program for children with disabilities, where he is making progress. He does not communicate by speaking, but he is an alert, active and competent child who wheels himself about and plays for hours on an electric organ his family gave him. He recognizes friends and loved ones. He has the capacity for enjoyment and happiness. His life may not be "useful" according to the pseudo-mathematical standards of the of the doctors who once condemned him to death, but he has one great advantage over the men and women who once plotted to deprive him of his life. He will never, ever commit an act of injustice towards another human being as great as the crime they committed against him

angel
01-29-2010, 08:33 PM
Ok this is just messed up on so many levels. It is scary, now I know for sure since i wasn't born in that state that I was not part of any experiment, however my surgery to close wasn't done until I was 6 days old. According to my family my father was told that I had a 50/50 chance to live. From what my mom says he opted not to do the surgery because he wanted me to "go" peacefully. Now that probably sounds bad but at 25 years old i am sure it scared the shit out of him. My mom, when she was released from the hospital came to the hospital where I was and insisted they do the surgery. She said 50% chance is still a chance! Thank god she did that!!!! My parents were below the poverty level when I was born in 1977.

That is just beyond any human decency to do what they did. To not only cost these children their lives but to put the parents through such agony. The court should be ashamed of themselves. This was a crime. Medical treatment witheld through a lie should be concidered premeditated murder in my opnion!

Angel

Jill
01-29-2010, 08:54 PM
WOW. I have no words for that. :(

sean
01-29-2010, 09:33 PM
yeah shocking! Even though this went on back in the 70's, I was a lab rat to medical science back and before then. I'd have very few problems now, had I not! been toyed with, I feel totally violated.
I don't know if it's paranoia from past experience or an intuitve knowing, that this kind of stuff is going on today somewhere more secretly than ever.
Here in OZ we have fast ageing population, the next few decades we're going to have more oldies than the system can handle. My cynical guess is there's some serious rationalising programes in the making. There are just as many dying in poverty as there are being born into poverty (a guess). Like prey to predators, at our most vulnerable.

XoBLoNDiE85
01-29-2010, 09:37 PM
Yea im still sick to my stomach over it....just sick! I might be young (im 24 and geoff is 26) but we try our best to research the heck out of ANYTHING done with Hannah and ask a million and one questions!!! Its worth all the time we spend and after reading this article its even more so!

angel
01-29-2010, 09:48 PM
I posted this to my Facebook as I have a lot of friends on there that also have SB. Just couldn't let this pass by this is something that EVERYONE should know about so it NEVER NEVER happens again!

Angel

LisaJoy
01-29-2010, 11:16 PM
Year before last, I gave a paper about that incident. It was at the American Association for the History of Medicine conference. The non-physicians in the audience were shocked; the doctors were not surprised. A couple of the physician-historians are neonatal docs -- other audience members asked them if non-treatment still goes on. They both said "not openly," but it still happens a lot. One of them just said, "I have seen some stuff" and shook his head. When the report of that "study" was published (I think it was in JAMA-Jnl of the American Medical Association), they were flooded with letters to the editor for several months, and most of them were appalled by the study (some thought it was great). David McClone, who is on the board of SBAA, was one of the loudest critics. Another neurosurgeon, a woman (don't remember who), wrote that if anyone didn't believe that people with sb could have a good quality of life, they had never been to a youth meeting at an SBAA meeting!

My theory is that "non-treatment" is much less common because most people choose abortion when their baby has sb. People who wouldn't choose abortion also are not going to choose non-treatment (unless it is a lethal case, like with anencephaly). But there are still plenty of people who give birth to babies with sb without it having been diagnosed.

I recently stumbled across a CURRENT online presentation about sb for pediatric neurosurgeons. It was a German website and by a German doc, but was in English. It said that unless the infant has a sacral level closed lesion, "there is nothing to be done" but to let the baby die. I wanted so bad to email that doctor and scream LIAR!

Ziggy
01-30-2010, 01:34 AM
This sickens me. Especially since I actually TOOK Sweet pea to that hospital this summer when we were visiting my folks and I thought he may have been having a shunt malfunction!

bcain
01-30-2010, 02:49 AM
Large government is scary, this whole story is scary. I feel so grateful that my daughter's lesion was sacral, and that the docs in my area gave me optimistic view of her condition. It does make you wonder what I'd have been told had the lesion been higher?

misty
01-30-2010, 03:39 AM
I was born in Texas without my parents knowing ahead of time that I had sb. They were given the option to with hold feeding and let me go peacefully. I can't imagine that starving to death would have been a "peaceful" way to go.

Dodger67
01-30-2010, 04:51 AM
In my not so humble opinion the idea of even trying to think of another person's "quality of life" is an entirely meaningless concept. Like the weight of an angel it has neither meaning nor substance.

Lisa, I really think you should take on that "Dr Death". You, more than anyone else I know, have the personal, intellectual and academic background and credentials to lead such an attack.

Mustang Sal
01-30-2010, 05:02 PM
I'm completely speechless.

I know that all sorts of things happen 'behind closed doors' in the medical profession, but for a bunch of doctors and scientists to try to legitimise this blantant act of MURDER by dressing it up as a 'study'? Absolutely bleeping disgusting :arrgh: People with SB are PEOPLE, not commodities to be studied and disposed of as and when these doctors see fit. It's all just so sinister - as well as making it angry, it also send shivers right through me. The amount of power that doctors have over people's lives, like who lives and who dies, is mind-blowing. I just always thought the Hippocratic oath they take when they qualify as medics means they have a duty to SAVE people, not kill them :(


Oh and as for 'Dr Death', that is unbelievable! Sniff him out Lisa, see what he has to say for himself.

Thanks for sharing this Blondie - it has disturbed me, but i'm glad I read it.

Jill
01-31-2010, 12:10 AM
My theory is that "non-treatment" is much less common because most people choose abortion when their baby has sb. People who wouldn't choose abortion also are not going to choose non-treatment (unless it is a lethal case, like with anencephaly). But there are still plenty of people who give birth to babies with sb without it having been diagnosed.


You make a really good point - this seems so horrific to us, but in reality it's still happening! It just happens at the prenatal diagnosis now instead of at birth. How many of us parents were given the option of abortion and told the worst-case-scenario about our child's functioning? I was told my son's defect was sacral, but that he'd be in a wheelchair, never walk, always be in diapers, and that his cognitive functioning would be questionable. It would be so easy to bully a woman into aborting when they're so vulnerable and spinning from the news. :(

LaceyRae
01-31-2010, 03:18 AM
This is really scary because my fiance and I are these "poor" people. Our doctor didn't go to any of those extremes, but the first thing he asked us after confirming the SB was, "Are you sure you want to continue with the pregnancy?"

dahliafaolan
01-31-2010, 04:48 PM
I was born in Louisiana and no one had any idea that I had SB until they pulled me out of Mom's stomach. I was born in the mid-80's when we supposedly started getting smarter about SB, but the doctors all told Mom to give me up to the institution, that I wouldn't amount to anything. I only wish that that doctor had been alive when I graduated from college. He would have gotten an invite in a New York second just to rub his nose in it.

sean
01-31-2010, 06:38 PM
I JUST WANT TO SCREAM!!!!!!!

What are the copyright laws, could this report be published (exposed) in general news.

kali
01-31-2010, 06:58 PM
after my son was born I was told to take my son home and if God was merciful my son would die within 2 years. without any operations. I was so sick with the thought of waiting and watching my son die. that was when I promised my son I was going to do everything I could for him. I actually saw children who didnt have the operations after birth. Its something I will never forget, the faces of those children. They died within two years of birth. It broke my heart, so much that I can not even described what I saw.

LisaJoy
01-31-2010, 09:47 PM
Unfortunately, Sean, this is very much "old" news. It did get quite a lot of press back around the time the research was first published.

Regarding the German site I mention above, I doubt that I'll be able to find it again; I didn't book mark it. It also didn't give the name of the person who prepared it, although the institution of course was in the URL. But if I find it again, I might take it upon myself to do a little education.

sean
02-05-2010, 10:34 PM
Bit off topic, but it's the 'attitude!'

A current affairs program, TV couple of days ago . Reporting that the government is providing for 40 thousand carer positions over the next few years.

The politician?/bureaucrat being interveiwed, pleased with himself!
As if needing to make an excuse says, (not word for word)

'Well disabled people are living longer now and thier carers are getting old and dieing'.

That's the gist of it. It was all wrong!
Don't know if he was purposely speaking informal Aussie, but it felt ..... 'disabled people' and 'living longer now' ............am I to blame, a nuisance.
The tone of his words was, 'well if we're going to keep these disabled people alive we're going to have to cough up and pay for it. Like 'I told you so!' as if he were blaming people with disabilities for living.......and for the big spend.
I know I'm a bit sensitive, got a radar for this stuff.
Again the visual really annoyed me. Himself being interviewed, a young woman, my guess has CP, obviously dependant on care ?trapped in her CP body, and her new carer.
The carer, a man in his 50's 60's says, giggle 'yeeer never thought I'd be working with women' giggle. It felt sleazy to me. I think they're making an add for TV.
I think there's nothing wrong with a male caring for a female, old man young woman, of course it can work. But to put that picture and those words out there nationally I'm thinking 'what the ....'
My thoughts are coming from a place of having been vulnerable prey and know 'care' 'carers' can be predetory. This radar I seem to have for abuse of others, don't know if I'm tooo sensitive/paranoid. It feels like intuition, I feel the need to tell it as 'I' see it.
Hopefully the producers of the TV add will have sorted out the words, visuals and tone/ feel before it airs. I feel a letter to the Editor coming on.
40 thousand new carer jobs great! but just do it!
Do we really need some glossy,potentially demeaning, pay packet in hand back slapping aren't I/we great politician/bureaucrat add'................and by the way there are some carer jobs available. Half expecting him to say 'and you too could have one of these' pointing to the woman.
I was left a little stunned by the interview and, an add for TV????.
Bit of a rant, but it's 'the attitude' It lives.

janjanwhit
02-25-2010, 03:28 AM
In NZ termination is offered up to 24 weeks for medical reasons. I was offered termination up to that point. After 24 weeks I was offered the option not to seek treatment for Fergus once he was born. What type of a person would refuse a termination only to let their baby die from infection weeks after being born? They told me it would 'only' take 3 weeks or so and most babies with sb are prem so it may take a lot less time then that.

Amnada
02-25-2010, 04:49 PM
I was also offered a termination up to 24 weeks, when I found out at 22 weeks. (I won't even mention how horrible a termination is at 24 weeks - it isn't something you are put to sleep for!)
It's horrible how misinformed some doctors are. When they offer a termination you think 'this must be so bad!'. The most horrible moments of my pregnancy was thinking about the 'choice' I had to make and it makes my father tear up thinking about it. That we had a choice not to have my beautiful baby boy because he has a diagnosis.

That's one reason I want to get involved in raising awareness of spina bifida. So that people can know what spina bifida looks like - and it's beautiful!